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Here is an example of the minimum maven builds one should run to check a small change in xwiki-platform-flamingo-skin-resources: mvn clean install -f xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-platform-flamingo/xwiki-platform-flamingo-skin/xwiki-platform-flamingo-skin-resources -Pquality mvn clean install -f xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-platform-flamingo/xwiki-platform-flamingo-skin/xwiki-platform-flamingo-skin-test -Pintegration-tests,docker The changes are related to the concept of panels, so we also build mvn clean install -f xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-platform-panels/xwiki-platform-panels-test -Pintegration-tests,docker If you're creating a Pull Request (PR), make sure you keep a written records of what tests you ran and to indicate them in the dedicated section of the PR template that must be filled up with details about the builds ran and the tests passed.

Since these 2 projects contain libraries that are independent of the concept of wikis, this makes it very easy for everyone to use them in their own projects.

The changes are related to the concept of panels, so we also build ##mvn clean install -f xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-platform-panels/xwiki-platform-panels-test -Pintegration-tests,docker## If you're creating a Pull Request (PR), make sure you keep a written records of what tests you ran and to indicate them in the dedicated section of the PR template that must be filled up with details about the builds ran and the tests passed

19:27 <vmassol> (assume that this will be moved to an ExtendedStringBuilder class with appendList, appendMap, etc) 19:28 <vmassol> (same concept as what commons lang did with http://commons.apache.org/lang/api-release/org/apache/commons/lang3/text/ExtendedMessageFormat.html ) 19:28 <vmassol> (I'll probably look at extending their class) 19:29 <abusenius> has joined #xwiki 19:29 <vmassol> (need to look at their FormatFactory stuff) 19:30 <vmassol> oops I meant http://commons.apache.org/lang/api-release/org/apache/commons/lang3/text/StrBuilder.html 19:31 <vmassol> but actually thinking abut it using ExtendedMessageFormat might be a good idea :) 19:31 <vmassol> got to go, bb in 1 hour 19:43 <mflorea> has quit 19:48 <Enygma`> has quit 20:12 <@cjd> vmassol: just for the sake of science, here's how I would approach that kind of problem https://ezcrypt.it/cP4n#RAzP1JyacdjcnLlUZC04SDKi 20:12 <@cjd> I added a few extra comments to explain myself. 20:13 <@cjd> using + rather than ).append( on string constants theoretically should encourage the compiler to do constant folding 20:14 <@cjd> and there is some duplication in there but it's a tightrope walk between reasonably performance and readability 20:15 <@cjd> making the reader go to the top of the page does not help anything 20:20 <@cjd> note: I didn't compile that, which is clear from line 248 20:26 <tmortagne> has quit 20:28 <CIA-120> Andreas Jonsson feature-security-authorization * rcdf04d6 https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/commit/cdf04d69bca61dc7f5e8bde8808971145daee0f6 / xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-platform-web/src/main/webapp/templates/xwikivars.vm : Setting the random space and page names to constant values for better right service cache utilization. (+88 more commits...) - http://git.io/Gqd-mg 21:01 <ssavi> has joined #xwiki 21:26 <fmancinelli> has joined #xwiki 21:44 <CIA-120> Sergiu Dumitriu master * rca10280 https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/commit/ca102807cd583c12a3019a464adbf40a76574b66 / xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-platform-oldcore/src/main/java/com/xpn/xwiki/store/XWikiHibernateBaseStore.java : [misc] Applied codestyle - http://git.io/MFXL0w 21:44 <CIA-120> Sergiu Dumitriu master * rd3b67f0 https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/commit/d3b67f0418301bdea89d976fee538ead69ff1ceb / xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-platform-oldcore/src/main/resources/xwiki.postgresql.hbm.xml : XWIKI-7539: Hibernate versioning broken with non-ascii characters when using a PostgreSQL database ... 21:44 <CIA-120> Sergiu Dumitriu master * reeac01a https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/commit/eeac01ab3dad506c9b16c8e2136cbd919d23a19f / (3 files in 3 dirs): XWIKI-7564: Upgrade from a version before 3.3 fails when running on a PostgreSQL database ... 21:44 <CIA-120> Sergiu Dumitriu master * r24844a1 https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/commit/24844a10f71986eed684aa0148be17ee60bd33dc / xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-platform-oldcore/src/main/java/com/xpn/xwiki/store/DatabaseProduct.java : XWIKI-7644: Add support for PostgreSQL as a known DatabaseProduct ... 21:48 <CIA-120> Sergiu Dumitriu stable-3.5.x * r7d909ab https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/commit/7d909ab4a359c6c05fb03de135eb4a48420e976b / xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-platform-oldcore/src/main/java/com/xpn/xwiki/store/DatabaseProduct.java : XWIKI-7644: Add support for PostgreSQL as a known DatabaseProduct ... 21:48 <CIA-120> Sergiu Dumitriu stable-3.5.x * rad983a6 https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/commit/ad983a61a380d921db1506497614cf98d765e7d7 / (3 files in 3 dirs): XWIKI-7564: Upgrade from a version before 3.3 fails when running on a PostgreSQL database ... 21:48 <CIA-120> Sergiu Dumitriu stable-3.5.x * r5edc6ed https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/commit/5edc6ed40a1491275034a094943552584ed2e281 / xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-platform-oldcore/src/main/resources/xwiki.postgresql.hbm.xml : XWIKI-7539: Hibernate versioning broken with non-ascii characters when using a PostgreSQL database ... 21:52 <CIA-120> Sergiu Dumitriu stable-3.5.x * r5857b5f https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise/commit/5857b5f3ba00f4dc8c4f0af1feccf2e8b75966ce / (2 files in 2 dirs): XE-1133: Use the PostgreSQL-specific mapping file when buiding the pgsql profile ... 21:52 <CIA-120> Sergiu Dumitriu master * r741b899 https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise/commit/741b8998e45e37aff88800bfa2d574c65687d6bd / (2 files in 2 dirs): XE-1133: Use the PostgreSQL-specific mapping file when buiding the pgsql profile ... 21:56 <evalica> has joined #xwiki 21:59 <evalica> has quit 22:00 <sdumitriu> has quit 22:00 <vmassol> cjd: new version: https://gist.github.com/2164507 22:01 <vmassol> now all we need to do is decide where we put that XWikiStyle class in commons... 22:03 <vmassol> I'll send a proposal mail 22:06 <@cjd> does XWikiStyle reference any of the state of the containing class?

19:27 <vmassol> (assume that this will be moved to an ExtendedStringBuilder class with appendList, appendMap, etc) 19:28 <vmassol> (same concept as what commons lang did with http://commons.apache.org/lang/api-release/org/apache/commons/lang3/text/ExtendedMessageFormat.html ) 19:28 <vmassol> (I'll probably look at extending their class) 19:29 <abusenius> has joined #xwiki 19:29 <vmassol> (need to look at their FormatFactory stuff) 19:30 <vmassol> oops I meant http://commons.apache.org/lang/api-release/org/apache/commons/lang3/text/StrBuilder.html 19:31 <vmassol> but actually thinking abut it using ExtendedMessageFormat might be a good idea :) 19:31 <vmassol> got to go, bb in 1 hour 19:43 <mflorea> has quit 19:48 <Enygma`> has quit 20:12 <@cjd> vmassol: just for the sake of science, here's how I would approach that kind of problem https://ezcrypt.it/cP4n#RAzP1JyacdjcnLlUZC04SDKi 20:12 <@cjd> I added a few extra comments to explain myself. 20:13 <@cjd> using + rather than ).append( on string constants theoretically should encourage the compiler to do constant folding 20:14 <@cjd> and there is some duplication in there but it's a tightrope walk between reasonably performance and readability 20:15 <@cjd> making the reader go to the top of the page does not help anything 20:20 <@cjd> note: I didn't compile that, which is clear from line 248 20:26 <tmortagne> has quit 20:28 <CIA-120> Andreas Jonsson feature-security-authorization * rcdf04d6 https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/commit/cdf04d69bca61dc7f5e8bde8808971145daee0f6 / xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-platform-web/src/main/webapp/templates/xwikivars.vm : Setting the random space and page names to constant values for better right service cache utilization. (+88 more commits...) - http://git.io/Gqd-mg 21:01 <ssavi> has joined #xwiki 21:26 <fmancinelli> has joined #xwiki 21:44 <CIA-120> Sergiu Dumitriu master * rca10280 https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/commit/ca102807cd583c12a3019a464adbf40a76574b66 / xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-platform-oldcore/src/main/java/com/xpn/xwiki/store/XWikiHibernateBaseStore.java : [misc] Applied codestyle - http://git.io/MFXL0w 21:44 <CIA-120> Sergiu Dumitriu master * rd3b67f0 https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/commit/d3b67f0418301bdea89d976fee538ead69ff1ceb / xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-platform-oldcore/src/main/resources/xwiki.postgresql.hbm.xml : XWIKI-7539: Hibernate versioning broken with non-ascii characters when using a PostgreSQL database ... 21:44 <CIA-120> Sergiu Dumitriu master * reeac01a https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/commit/eeac01ab3dad506c9b16c8e2136cbd919d23a19f / (3 files in 3 dirs): XWIKI-7564: Upgrade from a version before 3.3 fails when running on a PostgreSQL database ... 21:44 <CIA-120> Sergiu Dumitriu master * r24844a1 https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/commit/24844a10f71986eed684aa0148be17ee60bd33dc / xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-platform-oldcore/src/main/java/com/xpn/xwiki/store/DatabaseProduct.java : XWIKI-7644: Add support for PostgreSQL as a known DatabaseProduct ... 21:48 <CIA-120> Sergiu Dumitriu stable-3.5.x * r7d909ab https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/commit/7d909ab4a359c6c05fb03de135eb4a48420e976b / xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-platform-oldcore/src/main/java/com/xpn/xwiki/store/DatabaseProduct.java : XWIKI-7644: Add support for PostgreSQL as a known DatabaseProduct ... 21:48 <CIA-120> Sergiu Dumitriu stable-3.5.x * rad983a6 https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/commit/ad983a61a380d921db1506497614cf98d765e7d7 / (3 files in 3 dirs): XWIKI-7564: Upgrade from a version before 3.3 fails when running on a PostgreSQL database ... 21:48 <CIA-120> Sergiu Dumitriu stable-3.5.x * r5edc6ed https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/commit/5edc6ed40a1491275034a094943552584ed2e281 / xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-platform-oldcore/src/main/resources/xwiki.postgresql.hbm.xml : XWIKI-7539: Hibernate versioning broken with non-ascii characters when using a PostgreSQL database ... 21:52 <CIA-120> Sergiu Dumitriu stable-3.5.x * r5857b5f https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise/commit/5857b5f3ba00f4dc8c4f0af1feccf2e8b75966ce / (2 files in 2 dirs): XE-1133: Use the PostgreSQL-specific mapping file when buiding the pgsql profile ... 21:52 <CIA-120> Sergiu Dumitriu master * r741b899 https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise/commit/741b8998e45e37aff88800bfa2d574c65687d6bd / (2 files in 2 dirs): XE-1133: Use the PostgreSQL-specific mapping file when buiding the pgsql profile ... 21:56 <evalica> has joined #xwiki 21:59 <evalica> has quit 22:00 <sdumitriu> has quit 22:00 <vmassol> cjd: new version: https://gist.github.com/2164507 22:01 <vmassol> now all we need to do is decide where we put that XWikiStyle class in commons... 22:03 <vmassol> I'll send a proposal mail 22:06 <@cjd> does XWikiStyle reference any of the state of the containing class?

09:54 <Denis> for the same reason 09:55 <vmassol> it's your impl that is not going to work 09:55 <vmassol> not the concept 09:55 <vmassol> it just means the impl is not correct 09:55 <Denis> its is for speed and memory 09:55 <vmassol> yes but I doubt that it's a problem 09:55 <Denis> the implementation from Andreas were even worse 09:56 <vmassol> we defiintley need to be able to add and rmoeve rights 09:56 <vmassol> so if the impl cannot do we shouldn't even consider it 09:56 <vmassol> since it's not fulfulling the main reason for the new impl 09:56 <Denis> we could remove rights, but a singe run will keep them 09:56 <vmassol> I'm dispapointed 09:56 <Denis> untill restart 09:57 <vmassol> couldn't you at least keep holes?

09:54 <Denis> for the same reason 09:55 <vmassol> it's your impl that is not going to work 09:55 <vmassol> not the concept 09:55 <vmassol> it just means the impl is not correct 09:55 <Denis> its is for speed and memory 09:55 <vmassol> yes but I doubt that it's a problem 09:55 <Denis> the implementation from Andreas were even worse 09:56 <vmassol> we defiintley need to be able to add and rmoeve rights 09:56 <vmassol> so if the impl cannot do we shouldn't even consider it 09:56 <vmassol> since it's not fulfulling the main reason for the new impl 09:56 <Denis> we could remove rights, but a singe run will keep them 09:56 <vmassol> I'm dispapointed 09:56 <Denis> untill restart 09:57 <vmassol> couldn't you at least keep holes?

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v=IX27qvPlHsI 11:01 <jstoldt> ah, one of those vertical wind mills... 11:01 <jstoldt> yeah, those are really neat from a technical POV.... where i come from we got shit load of those regular ones 11:02 <@cjdelisle> By rotating the vanes, the power extraction increases, friction decreases and you can use simple wind load calculations to figure power output. 11:02 <jstoldt> yeah. it's a very nice concept 11:02 <jstoldt> just like tide turbines 11:03 <@cjdelisle> Also you have a means to kill it by knocking off the timing or by allowing one vaine to rotate 90 degrees out of allignment you can let all of the air strait through. 11:04 <jstoldt> true... might be benefitial on high wind speed... the regular ones need to be shutdown when too much wind blows... 11:04 <@cjdelisle> Yup.

Basic wind load calculations tell just how much. 11:05 <jstoldt> well, for me personally the best concept for renewable energy is desertec 11:07 <@cjdelisle> How exactly does it work?

v=IX27qvPlHsI 11:01 <jstoldt> ah, one of those vertical wind mills... 11:01 <jstoldt> yeah, those are really neat from a technical POV.... where i come from we got shit load of those regular ones 11:02 <@cjdelisle> By rotating the vanes, the power extraction increases, friction decreases and you can use simple wind load calculations to figure power output. 11:02 <jstoldt> yeah. it's a very nice concept 11:02 <jstoldt> just like tide turbines 11:03 <@cjdelisle> Also you have a means to kill it by knocking off the timing or by allowing one vaine to rotate 90 degrees out of allignment you can let all of the air strait through. 11:04 <jstoldt> true... might be benefitial on high wind speed... the regular ones need to be shutdown when too much wind blows... 11:04 <@cjdelisle> Yup.

Basic wind load calculations tell just how much. 11:05 <jstoldt> well, for me personally the best concept for renewable energy is desertec 11:07 <@cjdelisle> How exactly does it work?

12:21 <cjdelisle> *CNC mills. 12:22 <cjdelisle> Just the idea of everyone having a mill and codes being passed around like free software. 12:22 <jstoldt> i don't know about that concept... in fact, i am still trying to figure out a good translation for mill that makes sense to me ;) 12:23 <cjdelisle> milling machine. 12:23 <jstoldt> yeah, i think i know what you mean now... at least the mill part... but what about codes` 12:23 <cjdelisle> (Bridgeport) 12:23 <jstoldt> ?

14:47 <jstoldt> well, if you hash some hundreds of mega bytes of data twice it might still be a lot of cpu time 14:47 <cjdelisle> xwiki:Main.WebHome.this.attachments.30579\.jpg.30579\.jpg 14:47 <+sburjan`> pe net 14:47 <+sburjan`> wrong windows again :) 14:47 <+sburjan`> *window 14:47 <cjdelisle> You get a collision. 14:47 <cjdelisle> this makes the collision impossible. 14:48 <cjdelisle> Remove this and it will be impossible without nested spaces and improbable with them. 14:48 <+sburjan`> I don't understand the concep of nested spaces 14:48 <cjdelisle> You have a space called Main 14:48 <+sburjan`> *concept 14:49 <cjdelisle> inside of that you have a space called Another. 14:49 <cjdelisle> Inside of that a document called WebHome. 14:49 <cjdelisle> The fullName is xwiki:Main.Another.WebHome 14:49 <+sburjan`> but afaik we don't have nested spaces atm 14:50 <cjdelisle> correct. without using "this" we would close the door on adding them in the future. 14:50 <cjdelisle> (Or accept a collision bug) 14:50 <+sburjan`> but do we want this in future ?

12:21 <cjdelisle> *CNC mills. 12:22 <cjdelisle> Just the idea of everyone having a mill and codes being passed around like free software. 12:22 <jstoldt> i don't know about that concept... in fact, i am still trying to figure out a good translation for mill that makes sense to me ;) 12:23 <cjdelisle> milling machine. 12:23 <jstoldt> yeah, i think i know what you mean now... at least the mill part... but what about codes` 12:23 <cjdelisle> (Bridgeport) 12:23 <jstoldt> ?

14:47 <jstoldt> well, if you hash some hundreds of mega bytes of data twice it might still be a lot of cpu time 14:47 <cjdelisle> xwiki:Main.WebHome.this.attachments.30579\.jpg.30579\.jpg 14:47 <+sburjan`> pe net 14:47 <+sburjan`> wrong windows again :) 14:47 <+sburjan`> *window 14:47 <cjdelisle> You get a collision. 14:47 <cjdelisle> ~this makes the collision impossible. 14:48 <cjdelisle> Remove ~this and it will be impossible without nested spaces and improbable with them. 14:48 <+sburjan`> I don't understand the concep of nested spaces 14:48 <cjdelisle> You have a space called Main 14:48 <+sburjan`> *concept 14:49 <cjdelisle> inside of that you have a space called Another. 14:49 <cjdelisle> Inside of that a document called WebHome. 14:49 <cjdelisle> The fullName is xwiki:Main.Another.WebHome 14:49 <+sburjan`> but afaik we don't have nested spaces atm 14:50 <cjdelisle> correct. without using "~this" we would close the door on adding them in the future. 14:50 <cjdelisle> (Or accept a collision bug) 14:50 <+sburjan`> but do we want this in future ?

11:05 <+tmortagne> cjdelisle: commons is one project and it would not have the right to depends on any other xwiki project 11:05 <+tmortagne> s/project/top project/ 11:06 <+tmortagne> i don't see why they could not depends on each others 11:06 <evalica> has joined #xwiki 11:06 <+tmortagne> or why we should have some outside project limitation 11:07 <@cjdelisle> Well there must be some idea of "too much" dependency between the commons subprojects otherwise they will become the same as core. 11:08 <+tmortagne> cjdelisle: what i mean is that it's not a rule IMO it's just commons sense, when a project contains too much concept you separate it is several like we do all the time in core currently 11:08 <@cjdelisle> As far as outside projects I suppose it is alright not to impose any limit since outside projects are often what the commons projects are wrapping. 11:08 <mflorea> has joined #xwiki 11:09 <@cjdelisle> I suppose that is good enough.

11:05 <+tmortagne> cjdelisle: commons is one project and it would not have the right to depends on any other xwiki project 11:05 <+tmortagne> s/project/top project/ 11:06 <+tmortagne> i don't see why they could not depends on each others 11:06 <evalica> has joined #xwiki 11:06 <+tmortagne> or why we should have some outside project limitation 11:07 <@cjdelisle> Well there must be some idea of "too much" dependency between the commons subprojects otherwise they will become the same as core. 11:08 <+tmortagne> cjdelisle: what i mean is that it's not a rule IMO it's just commons sense, when a project contains too much concept you separate it is several like we do all the time in core currently 11:08 <@cjdelisle> As far as outside projects I suppose it is alright not to impose any limit since outside projects are often what the commons projects are wrapping. 11:08 <mflorea> has joined #xwiki 11:09 <@cjdelisle> I suppose that is good enough.

17:16 <+tmortagne> there is no concept of category in maven anyway 17:16 <+tmortagne> custom props is easy yes 17:16 <+tmortagne> I'm already using them for some EM things not supported by maven 17:17 <+tmortagne> and plan to add more 17:19 <+tmortagne> (I understood "XR UI" instead of "EM UI" at first) 17:19 <+tmortagne> I don't remember if evalica did a proposal about category in her design already 17:20 <+tmortagne> but from EM point it's only informationnal so it's just a lits of string to display somewhere 17:22 <vmassol> I don't think she's taken that into account… http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ExtensionManagerProposalI3 17:22 <vmassol> however she has different categories in the left menu 17:22 <vmassol> like macros, skins, etc 17:22 <+tmortagne> I see "tags" in her proposal 17:22 <+tmortagne> sounds like the same thing to me 17:23 <+tmortagne> under "ratings" 17:23 <+tmortagne> on the left of the extension description 17:23 <vmassol> yes I see them 17:23 <vmassol> they could finer-grained cateogires indeed 17:24 <vmassol> s/could/could be/ 17:24 <vmassol> we probably still need top level categories such as macros, skins, themes, etc 17:25 <+tmortagne> not sure 17:25 <+tmortagne> it make sense to have multiple catagories 17:25 <+tmortagne> a xar extension is often several things, we don't have much wiki macro alone 17:26 <vmassol> in any case the only category she's taken into account so far in her UI are the ones in the left menu 17:27 <vmassol> there's no UI mockup for filtering extensions on other things that I can see 17:27 <+tmortagne> yes the the one on the left are kind of random, they were supposed to be types and she just took what she found on extensions.xwiki.org 17:27 <vmassol> they're not random!

17:16 <+tmortagne> there is no concept of category in maven anyway 17:16 <+tmortagne> custom props is easy yes 17:16 <+tmortagne> I'm already using them for some EM things not supported by maven 17:17 <+tmortagne> and plan to add more 17:19 <+tmortagne> (I understood "XR UI" instead of "EM UI" at first) 17:19 <+tmortagne> I don't remember if evalica did a proposal about category in her design already 17:20 <+tmortagne> but from EM point it's only informationnal so it's just a lits of string to display somewhere 17:22 <vmassol> I don't think she's taken that into account… http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ExtensionManagerProposalI3 17:22 <vmassol> however she has different categories in the left menu 17:22 <vmassol> like macros, skins, etc 17:22 <+tmortagne> I see "tags" in her proposal 17:22 <+tmortagne> sounds like the same thing to me 17:23 <+tmortagne> under "ratings" 17:23 <+tmortagne> on the left of the extension description 17:23 <vmassol> yes I see them 17:23 <vmassol> they could finer-grained cateogires indeed 17:24 <vmassol> s/could/could be/ 17:24 <vmassol> we probably still need top level categories such as macros, skins, themes, etc 17:25 <+tmortagne> not sure 17:25 <+tmortagne> it make sense to have multiple catagories 17:25 <+tmortagne> a xar extension is often several things, we don't have much wiki macro alone 17:26 <vmassol> in any case the only category she's taken into account so far in her UI are the ones in the left menu 17:27 <vmassol> there's no UI mockup for filtering extensions on other things that I can see 17:27 <+tmortagne> yes the the one on the left are kind of random, they were supposed to be types and she just took what she found on extensions.xwiki.org 17:27 <vmassol> they're not random!

So from AS you can't go to the new page 11:50 <+sburjan> can't even see it was renamed, because only deleted icon appears. 11:50 <jstoldt> i see... well, its been a while since i've actually worked with XWiki now ;) 11:50 <+cjdelisle> yes, it was just something that came to mind 11:50 <+sburjan> IMO it's inconsistent 11:50 <+jvelociter> sburjan: you should check if a JIRA exists and report it if not 11:50 <+jvelociter> we've talked about it already 11:51 <+sburjan> ok, I'm gonna look 11:51 <+jvelociter> having a "page renamed" event 11:51 <jstoldt> to be honest, i don't like the concept of add new, remove old to boot with... 11:51 <jstoldt> it struck me a little odd all the time i used XWiki 11:52 <+sburjan> yes, Raluca reported it 11:53 <jstoldt> not just that but also not putting the old page to removed pages... 11:53 <+sburjan> even if it's not the same scenario 11:54 <+sburjan> gonna report it 11:57 <jstoldt> is sergio going to join soonish?

So from AS you can't go to the new page 11:50 <+sburjan> can't even see it was renamed, because only deleted icon appears. 11:50 <jstoldt> i see... well, its been a while since i've actually worked with XWiki now ;) 11:50 <+cjdelisle> yes, it was just something that came to mind 11:50 <+sburjan> IMO it's inconsistent 11:50 <+jvelociter> sburjan: you should check if a JIRA exists and report it if not 11:50 <+jvelociter> we've talked about it already 11:51 <+sburjan> ok, I'm gonna look 11:51 <+jvelociter> having a "page renamed" event 11:51 <jstoldt> to be honest, i don't like the concept of add new, remove old to boot with... 11:51 <jstoldt> it struck me a little odd all the time i used XWiki 11:52 <+sburjan> yes, Raluca reported it 11:53 <jstoldt> not just that but also not putting the old page to removed pages... 11:53 <+sburjan> even if it's not the same scenario 11:54 <+sburjan> gonna report it 11:57 <jstoldt> is sergio going to join soonish?

17:35 <vmassol> needs to move classloader in commons though 17:36 <+tmortagne> yep 17:38 <+tmortagne> we could find a way to make include macro a bit less dependent on wiki concept, like some API to get the XDOM of a target resource whatever this resource it and do all the context jingling in events like we do for script macros 17:38 <vmassol> we can also have 2 include macros 17:38 <vmassol> a generic one with less featrures 17:39 <+tmortagne> yep 17:39 <vmassol> and a xwiki one that extends it 17:39 <vmassol> tmortagne: didn't see your message re the macro move.